@inproceedings{Frater:2013sL, author = "Frater, Bob", title = "{You can't design what you can't conceive - what can we learn from history (presented by Ron Ekers)}", doi = "10.22323/1.170.0017", booktitle = "Proceedings of From Antikythera to the Square Kilometre Array: Lessons from the Ancients {\textemdash} PoS(Antikythera & SKA)", year = 2013, volume = "170", pages = "017" }